Grateful Dead Live at Ventura County Fairgrounds on 1987-06-12
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- Publication date
- 1987-06-12 ( check for other copies)
- Topics
- Soundboard, Charlie Miller, Joani Walker, Paul Scotton
- Collection
- GratefulDead
- Band/Artist
- Grateful Dead
- Resource
- DeadLists Project
- Item Size
- 1.3G
Set 1
Jack Straw ->
West L.A. Fadeaway
Mama Tried ->
Big River
Candyman
My Brother Esau
Bird Song
Desolation Row ->
Don't Ease Me In
Set 2
China Cat Sunflower ->
I Know You Rider
Far From Me ->
Man Smart (Woman Smarter) ->
He's Gone ->
Drums ->
Space ->
The Wheel ->
I Need A Miracle ->
Black Peter ->
Around And Around ->
Good Lovin'
Encore
Touch Of Grey
Jack Straw ->
West L.A. Fadeaway
Mama Tried ->
Big River
Candyman
My Brother Esau
Bird Song
Desolation Row ->
Don't Ease Me In
Set 2
China Cat Sunflower ->
I Know You Rider
Far From Me ->
Man Smart (Woman Smarter) ->
He's Gone ->
Drums ->
Space ->
The Wheel ->
I Need A Miracle ->
Black Peter ->
Around And Around ->
Good Lovin'
Encore
Touch Of Grey
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Versions - Different performances of the song by the same artist
Compilations - Other albums which feature this performance of the song
Covers - Performances of a song with the same name by different artists
Song Title | Versions | Compilations | Covers |
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Jack Straw -> | |||
West L.A. Fadeaway | |||
Mama Tried -> | |||
Big River | |||
Candyman | |||
My Brother Esau | |||
Bird Song | |||
Desolation Row -> | |||
Don't Ease Me In | |||
Tuning | |||
China Cat Sunflower -> | |||
I Know You Rider | |||
Far From Me -> | |||
Man Smart (Woman Smarter) -> | |||
He's Gone -> | |||
Drums -> | |||
Space -> | |||
The Wheel -> | |||
I Need A Miracle -> | |||
Black Peter -> | |||
Around And Around -> | |||
Good Lovin' | |||
Touch Of Grey |
Notes
Patch Info:
Beyer M160 -> Cassette Master -> CD (By Charlie Connor):
Space (0:02 - 0:11)
Notes:
-- Disc change is seamless
-- Jack Straw patched from 1st Gen Cassette SBD
-- Thanks to Paul Scotton and Joani Walker for the tapes
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- 2008-04-15 05:25:36
- Identifier
- gd1987-06-12.sbd.walker-scotton.miller.83751.sbeok.flac16
- Lineage
- Cassette Master (Tascam 122mkII) -> Apogee MiniMe (24bit/48k) -> Samplitude Professional v8.01 -> FLAC/16
- Location
- Ventura, CA
- Run time
- 153:34
- Transferred by
- Charlie Miller
- Type
- sound
- Year
- 1987
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Reviews
Reviewer:
CaptainToke
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June 27, 2021 (edited)
Subject: This show peaked in the first five minutes ... during 'Jack Straw'
Subject: This show peaked in the first five minutes ... during 'Jack Straw'
The entire 'Jack Straw' is burning white hot. Afterwards, the rest of the show is adequately well-executed, but it never reaches that intensity again.
Noteworthy moment: Later in the first set, there are various bird sounds in the PA before and after "Bird Song". Maybe they should have put Healy onstage with a sampler that's only audible to him, or something, rather than having him run the house sound?
1987 was a neat year and this run of shows is emblematic of the year: Taut versions, well-executed ,band engaging with itself nicely ... with overtones of the 'scene' just beginning to turn weird as the summer goes on.
Noteworthy moment: Later in the first set, there are various bird sounds in the PA before and after "Bird Song". Maybe they should have put Healy onstage with a sampler that's only audible to him, or something, rather than having him run the house sound?
1987 was a neat year and this run of shows is emblematic of the year: Taut versions, well-executed ,band engaging with itself nicely ... with overtones of the 'scene' just beginning to turn weird as the summer goes on.
Reviewer:
ananda2193
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May 25, 2021 (edited)
Subject: @mind Wondrin
Subject: @mind Wondrin
What malarkey are you talking?????
You obviously were never there!!
The beach closed off by a fence? Bullshit! I saw every Ventura show and the beach was a hundred yards from the
venue. Yes it was a dusty fairgrounds at times. The best place the GD played that I ever saw. EPIC!!! This show is very inspired! IMHO
You obviously were never there!!
The beach closed off by a fence? Bullshit! I saw every Ventura show and the beach was a hundred yards from the
venue. Yes it was a dusty fairgrounds at times. The best place the GD played that I ever saw. EPIC!!! This show is very inspired! IMHO
Reviewer:
Mind Wondrin
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September 24, 2018 (edited)
Subject: Beach bash beginnings
Though Ventura on the beach probably sounded great, I would imagine the move just struck to mail for tix for any shows that came after Laguna Seca. I had a commitment to finish and we hadn't been to shows in months, so it was due, and I probably wanted to hook up with some SoCal Heads that I knew. Sometimes it was time to just round the edges, shake off the detritus and tour for a few months. It turned out to be the start of a hot period for the band, though Sept. '87. I had heard about the great time at the previous Ventura shows "on the beach". This wasn't exactly true. Nobody told me this was a dirt rodeo ground and [at the time anyway] NOT directly accessible to the beach (which was fenced off).
Some have pointed to this as a great show, but what they are remembering is the middle of the 2nd set. A three-day run, the opener was average overall, with the fireworks happening the following two shows. But I recall how amped people were after this show in the campground and out on Shakedown Street (you could eventually get to the beach). There were hundreds of people dancing, singing, and forming drum circles, prepped for what became a golden-era summer. This run is hard to accurately assess, however, w/middling AUDs and poor SBDs (Healy at the height of his mic-matrix experiment & wild EQ choices).
First Set. The mix was poor (front of house too) for the first few songs but the band tightens up for Mama Tried. Too bad the highs are washed in a bath of crisps because this is a very strong Candyman. Use your EQ to reveal. The rest of the set is above average but there are no great sources. A strong Dough Knees leaves 'em happy.
Second Set. This set essentially has an extra song before Drums>Space and one after. The sound is finally half-decent, though China Cat is still missing the upper mids and the highs are crispy-washed. The best part of Rider is how Phil scoops under the key and shovels the notes over his shoulder. Jer misses the headlight verse and then tries to add it to the end, making everybody catch him. An Itsy Bitsy Spider tuning is faint. Far from Me has great individual playing but not from the whole. Jer is sorta on fire yet sorta the weak link. Dewiminna then comes along to tighten the slop. He's Gone is choice - unusually so, though again with crap sound. Brent and Phil steer. Drums start from a (near) stop and are fantastic, leading to an intense Space. In the evening, outside, truly weird; a true in-space Space. This sequence into Miracle and Peter is great. Too bad the sound is atrocious again (the SBD is mostly mic'd AUD here). After a brick-solid Black Peter there's less to remark, save GOGD.
1st Set: B-
2nd Set: C+
Overall = 3¼ stars
Highlights:
Candyman - EQ that shit
Drums - not usually a highlight for most of us
Space - in-space Space, touching down for Wheel
I Need a Miracle - the whole way
Black Peter - potent bookend of fine sequence
SOURCES: Not great ones. The bertha-ashley_4854 is a little wavery. The clugston_11884 is probably the least EQd but the walker-scotton_miller_83751 is the most dynamic. These are the Healy mic-matrix SBD. Most of these AUDs run fast and the taping section was not favored.
Subject: Beach bash beginnings
Though Ventura on the beach probably sounded great, I would imagine the move just struck to mail for tix for any shows that came after Laguna Seca. I had a commitment to finish and we hadn't been to shows in months, so it was due, and I probably wanted to hook up with some SoCal Heads that I knew. Sometimes it was time to just round the edges, shake off the detritus and tour for a few months. It turned out to be the start of a hot period for the band, though Sept. '87. I had heard about the great time at the previous Ventura shows "on the beach". This wasn't exactly true. Nobody told me this was a dirt rodeo ground and [at the time anyway] NOT directly accessible to the beach (which was fenced off).
Some have pointed to this as a great show, but what they are remembering is the middle of the 2nd set. A three-day run, the opener was average overall, with the fireworks happening the following two shows. But I recall how amped people were after this show in the campground and out on Shakedown Street (you could eventually get to the beach). There were hundreds of people dancing, singing, and forming drum circles, prepped for what became a golden-era summer. This run is hard to accurately assess, however, w/middling AUDs and poor SBDs (Healy at the height of his mic-matrix experiment & wild EQ choices).
First Set. The mix was poor (front of house too) for the first few songs but the band tightens up for Mama Tried. Too bad the highs are washed in a bath of crisps because this is a very strong Candyman. Use your EQ to reveal. The rest of the set is above average but there are no great sources. A strong Dough Knees leaves 'em happy.
Second Set. This set essentially has an extra song before Drums>Space and one after. The sound is finally half-decent, though China Cat is still missing the upper mids and the highs are crispy-washed. The best part of Rider is how Phil scoops under the key and shovels the notes over his shoulder. Jer misses the headlight verse and then tries to add it to the end, making everybody catch him. An Itsy Bitsy Spider tuning is faint. Far from Me has great individual playing but not from the whole. Jer is sorta on fire yet sorta the weak link. Dewiminna then comes along to tighten the slop. He's Gone is choice - unusually so, though again with crap sound. Brent and Phil steer. Drums start from a (near) stop and are fantastic, leading to an intense Space. In the evening, outside, truly weird; a true in-space Space. This sequence into Miracle and Peter is great. Too bad the sound is atrocious again (the SBD is mostly mic'd AUD here). After a brick-solid Black Peter there's less to remark, save GOGD.
1st Set: B-
2nd Set: C+
Overall = 3¼ stars
Highlights:
Candyman - EQ that shit
Drums - not usually a highlight for most of us
Space - in-space Space, touching down for Wheel
I Need a Miracle - the whole way
Black Peter - potent bookend of fine sequence
SOURCES: Not great ones. The bertha-ashley_4854 is a little wavery. The clugston_11884 is probably the least EQd but the walker-scotton_miller_83751 is the most dynamic. These are the Healy mic-matrix SBD. Most of these AUDs run fast and the taping section was not favored.
Reviewer:
deadheadnedwhite
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June 13, 2018 (edited)
Subject: 1 smokin Black Peter
Subject: 1 smokin Black Peter
a beautiful Wheel out of Space.
an often sloppy show. but i just loved seeing them in my town; walking the beach or riding my bike to see the boys was a paradise.
an often sloppy show. but i just loved seeing them in my town; walking the beach or riding my bike to see the boys was a paradise.
Reviewer:
pigkeithbrent
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June 12, 2012
Subject: First!!
Subject: First!!
no disrespect, brent needs a slap for that big river solo. call me old fashioned
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